thanks for all the advice. Ive talked myself out of the jic one. The spoon one isn't actually that expenive imo. Ive seen them for like 170 or so. The mugen is also really nice but wayyy to expensive. IVe herd a lot about the problems with the rear subframe with aftermarket sway bars. If i do that ill be sure to get one that reinforces too. I want to do things right the first time and not have to upgrade again. The stillen seems to be a solid piece to make it more ridged. Is the neuspeed hollow on the inside?