well AP, you could say that, but then you'd be speaking of a mass unit 400k a year car. If they made it look like the CTS it would easily lose a third of those sales. The CTS is love it or hate it. In 15 years it'll look like shit, whether you like it or not now. Think a TL is gonna look like shit in 15 years? I think not. Honda doesn't need to do anything drastic, they have success. If GM has to sell on style, so be it. Nothing else about the car is attractive to me.