yeah, just run over it a few times with a dump truck, that will make it completely silent. like 96gsintegra said, about 99% people here do not like/use APC products... they are crap. don't waste your money. remember, you get what you pay for. if you dont have the cash now, save up and get something that will sound better, last longer, and have wayyyyyy better quality. don't skimp out on car parts, cause you'll feel the whole in your pocket later in the road when your car has even bigger problems due to you buying shitty products.