Get the 05 TL. The money they want for a 04 you can spend a little more for new. My wife & I just bought a 05 TL w/ Nav. system. It's Navy Blue. We wanted to get just the A Spec rims 18" but $3200 is too muc. For that type of money you can get some 20's for that price. You'll love it. With the Nav. it'll run you around between 35K- 37. Trust me it's worth it. It has everything. I also bought a 98 GSR w/ only 74,600 which was a still. Got it from a private owner. Good luck.