thanks dubster99, ok so whats the most extreme cam i can run while maintaining streetability? i really care about streetability. what if i stay with skunk stage 1's? what's the quickest i can run with these? yeah down the road i already plan for obd1 and skunk IM. hey mrmike when you say stage2 you mean the 402's right? what sort of wheel hp do i need to run 14's? around 200? ok thanks for the help.