volk racing SE37K 17x7.5... they were available in bronze, but i wanted black...just with a polished lip. i saw them in all black on a 2000 electron blue civic Si in a magazine...i fell in love with them right then so that's the rims i got. i love my black wheels. and like i said, im alot more concerned with the weight, strength, more than i am with what people can and cant see from far away. if i wanted something people would look at i woulda got some 28" spinners haha function over fashion...but in this case i love the fashion