o... one more thing... if you get the prelude or the ingegra ls.... PLEASE don't get the automatic... thats a waste of a car, if you're a new driver and worried about learning stick, dont worry u'l learn it, but auto preludes and integras are hella slow, i used to beat em when a had a stock 02 civic EX coupe 5spd. Just don't ruin ur car and get an auto, stick is better in EVERY single respect