thanks for the reply....you in the sac area often? ever race at sac raceway? anyway...i was thinking skunk2 stage1 because they pass smog according to david hsu at skunk2 and dont require valvetain upgrade. i read it at team-integra.net what do u think? too mild? i hear crowers break easy compared to others. i read it in a post. don't remember which site, probably this one.