Hm...I bought the Magnaflow full catback system with the 2.25 mandrel bent piping and the 4" tip and I am highly unsatisfied. Too loud for my taste. The mandrel bent piping is nice and I am planning on getting a new muffler to throw on there to replace the 4" potato gun I have now. I was looking at the ES Oval and was wondering what yall thought? Also, if anybody has any pics of the es oval on their car or pics of the good mufflers they suggest that would be helpful too. I'm looking for something that has a nice deep growl to it but not something too loud to where you to hear me coming from 200 yards away. Any suggestions would be helpful, thanks!