they are 17's, but they look small and plus the stupid eibach pro-kits' drop is weak, making it look worse, but then im planning on getting thicker tires when these die out and get coilovers, so when the thicker tires raise the car, i can lower it more wtih coilovers to kinda balance it out, that way it isnt too low and wont be a hassle to drive around haha.