I'm actually planning to pick up mine early next week.. Just waiting for insurance quotes right now.. My credit union supposedly buys the car for 32,800 and they said that's only a couple of hundred over dealer price.. B/c of my insurance journey I'm going to have to buy from the dealer which is not that much more.. I'm going to lease one with Navi for 445 for 42 months. Total price from the dealer is 33,500.. So basically I haven't seen or heard brand new 05 Navis going out the door for less than 33,000... Hope this helps!!