de.fused i made sure the cams were at TDC because on the cam gear, "up" was where it should have been, and the crank was lined up with the timing belt case "eye line" bit by using the white indent on the pulley. I did the straw thing and the #1 spark plug hole was stickin out the most.

The belt seemed to be very slack, so i decided to take it off again and visually see how big it was compared to the old one. From what i could see it actually looked bigger, also i looked on the codes on the belts and one of them was simlilar expect for one number. The old one was 104 RU24, and the new one was 103 RU24, so i phoned up the honda garage to see if they had maybe order the wrong part.

he confirmed that it was the right belt for my engine (new one), and that the change in numbers was just a part number superceading itself. I wasn't sure about this so he went and asked one of the mechanics if this was right, and they said that the 103 bit ment the amount of teeth that were on the belt. So this seemed to explain why it seemed to be bigger and slacker than the old belt, so I'm wating for a 103 teeth belt to arrive.

So i though i would try my old belt on again to make sure that i can get it to work, and that it is the right belt for the car, and I keep stumbling into the same problem. Everything is at TDC, the belt is round the crank, tensioner and water pump, only thing left is to put it on the cam gear. It fits over the cam gear fine, but on the front side of the engine, theres a bit of slack on the belt, and when i go to move it three teeth to tension it, the crank moves a bit takin the slack of the belt before the cam gear moves, so the crank and cam gear are not both at TDC. (also tesioner is untightened 180 degrees)

So why is there this bit of slack in the belt, what am i doing wrong?? thanks for ur help guys, im slowly gettin there....