The funny thing is that I have driven the STS and it is very surprising. Looks good too. Disappointing doesn't describe the car.

And the new GC is a huge improvement for 90% of buyers over the last one. Had they driven the vehicle and not just looked at it, they would have figured this out.

I don't give huge credability to internet sites (edmunds seems to be the only good one of the bunch). It seems like their "testing" is limited to a test drive just about anybody could take. The writing is much like what you would read talking to a 12 year old that has just discovered the internet with 5 too many exclamation points.

I drove by two Honda dealers yesterday and I saw 5 vans in the front of one lot and 6 in front of the other. This wasn't the case for the old van. I think Honda missed the boat with it or people are gravitating towards regular cars again. But nothing can be worse than the new Quest. When the Aztek goes away this will be the ugliest new car you can purchase.