Appreciate it. You an alright guy. I guess i just did'nt take the time or not smart enough, heh, to do the search on google. Oh, and thanks. I always thought it was b-16a. Not b16a. I will eventually have one though because i doubt i will ever sell this Honda. So much in the stereo and I had a crx when i was 16 and now i'm almost an old fart. Yeh, and that reminds me, i need to update my cardomain thing. I've got an awsome head unit now in it.