With respect to the accord, I think you guys are forgetting who the primary buyer of this type of car is. Its not the 3% or so population of people like us who like sporty modified cars, its mostly people like my mom looking for something that rides well, gets good gas mileage, and is extremely reliable. Like others have said I think the best accord was the 5th gen (i have a 94 myself) which i believe was the last generation before they started producing a north american specific model. Americans are fat (we are the fattest country in the world) and like big cars so honda just adjusted to the market here. If they had kept the TSX as the accord here, there would no doubt have been complaints about it being too small for a family sedan. Even though the newer model may seem ugly and non sporty to us, honestly honda could probably care less considering 98% of the people will take what they put out there.