My younger brother has started up his own forum "Liberty Front:
A Forum Geared Towards Libertarian Ideals". its a forum to discuss politics, religion and/or anything that fits your fancy. Here is the web addy: http://leviathann.shyper.com/liberty/index.php if anyone is interested feel free to go check it out. its only been up for a week and i told him i would try and help him get a little bit more traffic going on and/or some people that might have some ideas for his forum.

P.S. the forum has nothing to do with cars. so this is not an attempt at trying to take away from HAN since i will still continue to be a religious HAN users, whether you kids want me to be or not j.k.