btw did you ever see a dyno chart for the RX8's? Even though they are rated at 238 hp i saw a dyno that showed the rx8 making 172 to the wheels which is about the same as the rsx.. (though i also heard its hard to get an accurate dyno on one). auto rx8's are easy kills for the RSX while the 6spd is almost neck to neck from a roll and this has been done many times stock to stock