WOOH! thanks guys...i HAD to take apart the ENTIRE panel, i tired to just take off the speaker part of it but it's bolted on the other side, i just ended ripping a little bit of panel off... bleh, but they sound great!, i just hope no one jacks my car! hahaha, cus they are PRETTY EASY TO STEAL! hahaha, alright i'm gonna post some more, late!