thats because abc polled 35% democrats, 35% republicans and 40% independent or swing voters, so of course some stubborn republicans will say bush won or it was a tie. even nbc had 6 swing voters and a few were former bush voters and they ALL agreed kerry won the debate. cnn has similar numbers like 53% kerry, 37% bush. maybe some of you just wanna see some fox news polls because theyre the only ones that are fair and balanced.