yeah everyone is on pioneer's nuts, but i owned two pioneers and both had problems. first one was a 8000 and the screen got messed up and started flickering (might i add the sq was not good) second was the 9000 after returning the 8000 and that left black spots on my cd's!!!
i had two clarions 9575 which had no problems, (but got stolen) and 9675 (which i have now) and hasnever had any problems and sq is amazing.