I swear on anything. I'll even give you the kids number, he's from columbus ohio and his lude runs 16.4 to 16.8 from what he told me. I don't know what my wifes car pulls but I know it's not in the 17's because my friends civic dx pulls 17.1 and the integra is faster than him because we've raced. There is no way in hell an auto lude will even come close to competing with a type s rsx. That's like saying a auto lude will run with a 5 speed!