Originally Posted by benjamin
Yeah, but Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo are shitholes. Upstate New York is pretty economically depressed, and it shows. Albany is getting a bit better, but Kodak is all but gone from Rochester and I'm not sure what is keeping Buffalo running.
Syracuse, on the other hand -- go Orangemen.
(By the way, I went to SUNY Albany.)
I don't know--I wouldn't call my city a shithole.
Of course, it's no NYC or LA.
But there are some nice suburbs to each of the cities listed.

The amount of people that drive through Buffalo, never stop to take a look at things, and keep going, then state it's shitty, amazes me.