Don't want to start anything, then say that? You really want to start a pissing match with me? Okay then let's do it, point by point.

There's more to a car than displacement, hp, and ft/lbs. Really? (Sarcasim) - Maybe that's why I mentioned how much I enjoyed working on the civic? There are reliability concerns, handling, price, and creature comfort aspects ... who's to argue that? I simply said that I would like to see a company that designed the civic so well, do a serious STREET performance car. How is that bad, and how does that warrant your simple minded comment? The NSX is 90% wasted on the street.

Okay FWD vs. RWD

Name one situation in which FWD is better than RWD under PROPER weight conditions?

2 words: Weight Transfer!

I suppose companies like Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche, BMW, McClaren Co. all design their $70,000 to $1.1 million dallor cars as RWD by accident? Better yet, the benchmark of Honda performance is what? REAR WHEEL DRIVE You may have heard of these cars, they are called NSX'es. Mind you, these are cars that aren't meant for drag racing, but HANDLING, and ARRRK! Are rear wheel drive? The hell you say, surely if FWD is superior, no company would invest this kind of money into an inherently inferior design!

Okay okay okay, fair enough, you said normal driving situations ... what's a normal driving situation? Define it. Let's talk emergency lane change. I mean, you will always get the idiot in front of you that wants to pump his breaks. You vehicle is traveling at 35 MPH, you must weave around an oncoming obstacle. You first, hit the gas in effort to quicken the responses. PROBLEM! Weight transfer! FWD - you remove weight form the front wheels, wheels that will be doing a dual purpose of turning and accelerating at the same time. You IMPAIR their ability to remain in traction of the road as you remove weight from them! Now you begin to turn, creating a separate lateral force against them, along the with sudden loss of downward pressure. The possibility of losing traction is increased in 3 ways.

Now, compare that to RWD, where you are transferring weight to the driving wheels, the suspension levels (in a torque arm suspension as used in 82-02 Fbodies in peticular) as you enter a point of initial lateral acceleration, IE the lane change, redistribution weight back onto the front of the vehicle. The IRS on most FWD vehicles will not allow this because they are "Self Leveling" designs, leveling from side to side, not front to back. They are designed to handle lateral forces particularly well, but not weight transfer.

Okay, now I know what you are saying - I just got done saying all these high buck companies are producing RWD platforms because they are superior, and in the next breath, I'm talking poorly about IRS'es that they all use. Hark, but the difference is that in all of these vehicles, the IRS has a dual function! It HAS GOT TOO BE DESIGNED TO HANDLE WEIGHT TRANSFER! It is meant to hold the DRIVING wheels in contact with the pavement, and they are designed totally diferent as a result! Now self leveling is not the only important issue, but so is pushing the wheels down when they want to "Hop." I assume you've heard of "Wheel Hop."

Fact is, I could go on and on and on - but the bottom line is that I loved working on this Civic, but don't come to me with the "Bullshit" that got "Ricers" their reputations in the first place and then hide behind "Not trying to start anything" statements.... There are some fast FWD cars out there - but for every 1 FWD car in the 9's, there's how many thousands of RWD cars are there? For every 1 FWD car pulling 1.00 G's are lateral acceleration, how many thousands of RWD cars are doing it? For every comfortable and reliable FWD car out there, how many thousands of RWD counterparts are there?

FWD is easy to assemble for the factory - period! The car companies that don't cut corners on labor cost to safe the consumer a few pennies on an end product don't design their cars to be FWD! Take GM for example - they like to just stamp out as many cars as they can, most have shitty interiors, and piss poor exterior design, but they are affordable and common, and almost all FWD! They are also cheap to assemble, and that's the idea. Low cost, High profit!

Back to topic - that's for the help guys - I really enjoyed working on this car, and can appreciate why so many people love them for fun toys, or reliable daily drivers!