thanks jafro....info is much appreciated....not sure what i'll do with my old B8, i was just interested....i mean, i think it'd be cool yeah, but not sure if it'd be worth all the effort....of course....if i did build the B8, it wouldn't end up being much of a B8 when i'm done....i had ideas of port/polished v-tec D16 heads, eagle rods, much better fuel system, boosted, etc etc....so to keep it a true B8, no, i wouldn't do that, the only thing that would really be a true B8 would be the block...so i dunno...just a thought i had to throw into the wind...thanks fellas