I've got mine for 23 even OTD. I live in central cali, so, down there, probably looking at about the same price. 23 is average cost of the RSX-S. Some peeps get it for less others get it for more, but overall average is 23. So, if yall really want to bargain with the dealer, ask for 22,200. I think thats the lowest you can probably get the car for in Cali. Other states, I've heard, they can probably get less for it, but not in Cali, I've shopped around myself before I got mine in May of 04. Mines an 04 Premium white Peard RSX-S. Got it in Fresno............