Originally Posted by jaje
if you've ever been on a track with an svt lightening and in a stock 130hp protege wagon (both average drivers) that can keep up with it and all the hype as it is a sports truck...only on the straights could it actually do anything...braking took 50-60 feet longer from a high speed to stop with a lot of drama and while turning watching the rear end try to come around each time they tried to push it through
How about not comparing apple to oranges. And yes, I've driven both the first 2 generations of the Lightning. It's a hot truck. And that's always what it is a
TRUCK. Again, just because its on its last year model run and the brand new RAM SRT-10 has it beat this time and isn't a track demon compared to small compacts it doesn't mean that it "sucks". No, this Ford does not suck.
Originally Posted by jaje
why not? when anyone thinks of "cobra" they can only think of the current generation?...the fact that it was slow when the first modeld debuted then later mistated horsepower several times (and not just on the cobra) doesn't conjur up some embarassment?
So what. Blame it on the intake manifold. Ford messed up, but they fixed that for the 2001 model year and even released a 5.4L Cobra R in 2000. then for 2003 the 4.6L was based on an iron-block for better torque and added a supercharger to it. Now does that Ford really "suck"? This Ford does not "suck". And you are WAY over-generalizing when you say "anyone". :ugh:
Originally Posted by jaje
check the iihs site again and tell me the 2001-2004 escape did not get a "poor" rating in right leg foot injury...
http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/...105.htm...then look at the 2005 escape same area that did not improve the same intrusion danger in the right leg foot injury...now this was after Ford touted its 2005 escape had several improvements in crash safety especially frontal collision in which it was one of the lowest performers...you'd think a "poor" area would be a center of focus
Again, you're nitpicking. When you say "[pre-2005] escape has poor front crash ratings" you're implying about the overall test. Just because it failed on that one point, doesn't mean that it was "poor". The pre-05 Escape got a "MARGINAL" overall rating. The Escape was release in the 2000 model year. The Escape is practically one of the oldest model in its category right now. The CR-V in 2000-2001 was rated the same nearly the same as the Escape at the time, and to some extent better with its higher score in the head injury measurement.
The 05's got an "ACCEPTABLE" overall ratings. I recognize it still got a poor rating in one category, but the 05s are refreshed models and not a remodel. I rather have a broken foot than get a head or chest damage. And actually those test depends less on the foot scores than the others categories of head, chest, restraint, and structure. Look at the link I provided. Unless it gets a "POOR" overall crash score, I do NOT count the Escape as a Ford that "sucks" in safety.