tru, the wheels i chose were not cheap, however, a substitute for the M5 19's, thats all. im assuming that he knew the price of them, retailing well over 2 G's, so all the wheels i picked were ALOT less than that, except maybe the GTNs, which i've seen u can get a $1800-2000 at 18s just for the wheels. Andwho, yea, look at Axis, like the Touring cups, and Neos, i like both of them. i used to love them, but touring cups are played out a bit. Have u seen Rota? they have several brands I like, one of my fav's only come in 17s still i believe, they look EXACTLY like these SICK ADVAN wheels. there 5 spoke spilt star style wheels. VERY AFFORDAble, or the Subzeros in 18's. U can get them for around $800 for 18's, sick deal huh. The SUbzeros look similar to the Racing Hart CP-035N, they come with polished lip, gun-metal, white, and gold maybe even i forgot. oh, and tenzo's are nice as well, and 5Zigen, such as the Copse, Fireball, and Typhoons(nice lip on them).