lol man i've posted my pics like 100,000 times....i love my volks...they are forged, stronger than any other wheel out there because of it, and only weigh 14lbs each in 17x7.5...i dont fear potholes or curbs because these things are invincible....i spent 2800 rims and tires, that includes tax, shipping, mounting and balancing and shit...that last pic is the bronze finish...i got black...i am however thinking of refinishing in bronze