smurf you give the worst examples I have ever seen. :slap:

What he is trying to say is that the agencies no longer need a warrant to put a wire tap in and monitor whoever they choose. Instead they label it as a "security reason" and do it.

another example could be the closed sessions that are trying to be held regarding changes to the constitution.

another could be the funneling of millions (nearly billions) to the war effort while our children suffer in bottom end schooling situations and our economy is driven deeper into the hole.