now if there were rebates on the car that would be different...with the chevy's we have like 3500-5000 rebates right now...we actually ran an add saying that if u have other bills, like credit cards, open auto's, or loans that total up to like 4000, but u're paying like 500 a month on one, 200 a month on one and 100 on the other that you can just take the rebate, pay them all off at once, then just buy a new car...but nobody's gonna give u 4800 bucks to pay off a car with no rebate lol there's only like 2000 markup in honda's, a lot of time less than that