stiff? man i HATE the 04 V6 suspension. I had to drive one today to go somewhere for work ( i work at a honda dealership) it sucked. the suspension is so soft, and the body roll is ungodly...but i am used to rolling around in my 6th gen dropped 2 inches on GC's and illumina's set on 4 stiffness up front and 5 in the back (1-5 stiffness) i guess that's why im biased haha I actually have heard some complaints from people that are used to driving camrys, maxima's, and other old people cars that handle like bricks on wheels...but it's true, if you want handling, u need stiffer suspension to cut down on body roll...but i've driven a couple hundred accords and stock they are incredibly soft. i think once u get used to it u'll love it. if not, buy a TSX cuz it's prettier anyway