Originally Posted by M Type X

RL all-around is a good car, performance is probably typical Acura, i.e. nothing difficult, point-click-go and more exciting than what Toyota-Lexus thinks an ordinary sedan should be.

Lots of choices in the midlux area, and it seems many automakers are all updating at the same time. Obviously, I'm more interested personally in more entrylux, and it does seem to me that they all start to look alike and have all that technotrash once you start to move up past $40K stickers into midlux sedans.

A loaded BMW 3-Series or Infiniti G35 won't go above $40K, and most of your midux sedans are aboe $40K. I'd say that nearlux seems to be in the $30K segment (you can load an Accord V6 close to that), although the TSX makes a compelling argument below $30K (while SAAB and Volvo think they can, but don't).