There's a reason I don't spend as much time on Honda boards as Nissan boards. Honduh people don't know their stuff as well.

I guess that's okay insofar as Honda does build models somewhat out-of-line with the competition, i.e. Nissan and Toyota traditionally match each other, whereas Integras and Legends, to name a few, really came out of nowhere and took over market niches. And the Accord plays everything from a cheap midsize sedan to a nearlux V6 rocket. Honda doesn't have a direct competitor per se for the Avalon and Maxima, for example.