The torque is almost the same it the gsr, can you feel it? I drive my si to work then test drive gsr's all day. It's damn near the same. Lets see it has a longer rod and a two stage intake mainfold, wow big difference there. I should have gotten on the bandwagon and spent 5k more for that. what's that worth again? 10-15 ftlbs of tq? All I'm saying is for the extra money spent on a gsr you could upgrade the si and have a faster car. I look at teg's like engine donor cars. That's it.