the long term effects are still unknown, although most physicians will lean toward the conservative side.

i use micronized creatine (dymatize brand), on 21-30 day cycles including a loading period. i noticed greater stamina/less fatigue, which helps you get more reps and sets in. it also helps the muscles retain water to appear fuller.

anyway my personal belief with supplements is to start using them after you get a solid routine down. let your body get used to regular weight training, then add in supplements later.

it seems like everyone here is gungho about supplements, without really weight training first?