Hey guys, thanks a lot, those were definatly the kind of answers I was looking for and they help out a lot, Im probably going to be running a 50-75 shot in my civic and I like senseiturtle's friend HATE my third gear, it has the most torpue, but it doesnt have the "get up and go" power as the other 4. 5th is also a little slow. thanks a lot, and feel free to "whore" my thread, its totally cool, I get as much info from your questions as from my own. thanks a lot guys and if you have more to add, please do