SMSP wrote:

[quote:a49ad4511b]Here is what was done to George's car.

Block: Stock B18C5 with 70k miles
Cylinder Head Gasket: Stock
Cylinder Head: Valve Job and Porting performed by DFE. This was his full street P&P, $900
Cams: Stock
Cam Gears: Skunk2, Retail $250
Intake: DFE again but only work done in the runners
Intake Manifold Gasket: Hondata Race
Injectors: Stock ITR 240cc but with the RC Engineering touch
CAI: Custom SMSP with smooth taper to match TB ID, I don't have a price on this, we've since put the Comp Tech back on to keep it quiet.
Air Filter: K&N
ECU: Hondata S100, please check Hondata web site for prices
Tuning: SGT, check with Steve for rates.
Header: SMSP w/ aftermarket cam "option" $975
Cat: Carsound/SMSP 93506 OBDI, $165
Cat Back: Custom 2-1/2" SMSP w/ (2) light weight resonators and (1) rear muffler Pricing not set yet.[/quote:a49ad4511b]

The missing prices here are the Hondata S100 which George gave as $650
Intake Manifold Gasket: Hondata Race $65
Injectors: Stock ITR 240cc but with the RC Engineering touch $100
CAI: Comptech to keep it quiet with filter $358
Cat Back: Custom 2-1/2" SMSP (I'm guessing) $500

Total to match George's car (without tuning or labour) $3963

This is for a 192-162 stock whp gain of 30 hp, which gives $132/hp.
The 205 hp Toda car is somehwere between $129-$153/hp depending upon unlisted costs
The old 197 hp Toda car was $121/hp with no costs for ECU changes
Erik B's 194 hp NA motor above adds up to $3080 or $96/hp (in this very short poll, Erik wins the cheapest hp increase award even though it was unsatisfactory for him!)

The above engines are quite different in terms of mods, some with headwork, some with cam changes, one with piston changes. All with header changes but some with stock exhaust. They do all have the common factor that you are looking at a range of $96/hp to $132/hp or more to get even close to 200 whp, plus tuning and labour costs. Thus at these rates to get to 200 whp, it is going to cost at least $3648 to $5016, and I suspect much closer to the high number as the last hp costs a lot more than the first hp.

It would be interesting to know what just high performance headers can do. Hytech on their web site claim a 22 whp increase on an ITR with just their complete header/exhaust for $1300+800=$2100 or $95/hp. While this is likely the most expensive header out there, if the numbers are true it is about the best $/hp one could spend. However I have no idea what hidden costs might be required to get that extra 22 hp. Perhaps Dave can tell us what hp one of his complete systems makes in comparison.

Also has anyone else got a motor combo with cost for a 200 whp (or getting there) ITR NA motor?