Read what you wrote, On a civic Tanabe might be loud but I don't know about you but, I own a Type R. On my 99 civic I had a tanabe racing medallion and it was loud as hell. We're talking about Type Rs here. In my opinion It's the best sounding for the money. DC, Apex, Greddy, they all sound like shit compared to mine. It's hard to get a GSR or Type R to sound smooth with an exhaust. Trust me. It's quiet. All you here is Vtec in my car