Cool, thanks bbqman and victor. I am also an advocate of keeping it on the track, and even on that road, I keep myself well within control. It just wouldn't be worth it to hurt myself (came close enough once) or even worse, someone else, just to go fast. Especially after hearing stories like the one about that kid in the S2000 in Philly...yikes. Yeah, one accident is enough to open your eyes. Now if I could just find a big bag of money to pay for all my track days...