I can agree with that... Obviously lap times and wear/heat patterns tell you more about how a tire is being effectively (or ineffectively used). We actually have plenty of subaru's here in RMD. The 2.5 RS is the second most common cars at our events (behind miatas). The best ones here don't make noise that probably has something to do with tire choice. But really, unless we're all on the same page (talking about the same tire) it really is pointless to discuss. Some tires are beyond they're limits when making a lot of noise, others are not. My roommate's azenis, for instance, hardly make any noise at all, and we can tell from his temp readings and shoe-polish that he is using them pretty much to their fullest. My kumholios, however make a lot of noise, but the bulk of that noise is made when I've pushed them too far. My old kumholio R tires never made a peep.