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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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First off, I respectfully protest that in quoting information like this, you are resorting to the same kind of propaganda techniques employed by the individual whom you mean to criticise.

Your sites are blatantly and obviously clearly intentionally anti-Christian, just as Tirod's sites are blantant LDS propaganda.


Originally Posted by More&Faster
i came across it while doing a research paper for mythology.
Mythology? LOL... The Crown rests, my lord. :P

anyone who's studied much mythology knows that Dionysus (aka Bacchus) was a jesus-figure that predated jesus.
Anyone who calls the great god Dionysos a "Jesus figure" does not understand either Dionysos/Bacchus or Jesus Christ, in my humble opinion.

The teachings of Christ clearly evince that he preached love as the highest ideal; however, he never preached the self indulgent orgiastic sexual expressions that Dionysos/Bacchus evidently indulged in. To this day, the word Bacchanal is a synonym for orgy.

he was worshipped in a cult fashion, as was jesus.
C'mon, now. You are throwing politically charged words around without due consideration to the meanings of the words and the consequences of your actions.

he was born of a virgin as was jesus.
C'mon, now. Semele was not a virgin. Moreover, when the Great Olympian Thunderer took you, you were definitely taken, and you were no longer a virgin, even if you were at the beginning of the act.

he was the son of a god, he was resurrected just like jesus.
Yes, Dionysos was resurrected; however, his resurrection had nothing to do with the kind of sacrifice that Christ made. Christ deliberately suffered as a man, died, was buried, and descended to the Fortress of Tarturus, broke the Gates of Brass with his own hands, and raised Adam and Eve from their graves.

There are many ancient myths of this kind of sacrifice. You would have done better to talk about Mithra or the sacrifice in Gilgamesh instead of talking about Bacchus/Dionysos.

The love that the friends in the Sumerian epic Gilgamesh is understandable because we as humans know that we are capable of that kind of love, and that kind of sacrifice for the sake of our love.

This, by itself, makes it possible to believe Christ's sacrifice. You know as a human possessed of human love that you would willingly sacrifice yourself if it would save a friend. We are also taught that we humans and our emotions are a part of the Image of God. It is, therefore, no stretch of the imagination for us to believe that God himself would one day face the misery of sin and take the entirety of it unto himself.

do you deny that christianity evolved from many other similar religions? or do you actually believe that in a long line of cult religions, chrisianity is the "true" religion?
I believe that there is one true faith, perhaps best evinced on this planet by Orthodox Christianity's preservation of the original teaching's of Christ and the preservation of the Church established by the Apostles.

That does not mean that there are not other truths out there in the legions of universes created by the same God, and it does not mean that the saviour and great lover of mankind has not portrayed himself in different forms in different places for different peoples in different existences.

I am an Orthodox Christian. That does not mean that I do not see truth in Buddha's teachings. That does not mean that I do not respect the Wiccan oath to "do no harm, then do what ye will."

The Son of God is salvation.

We can usually tell where God is not, but it might not always be clear to you where he is or can be if you have closed your mind to the majesty of his creations and refused to understand what an infinitessimally microscopic portion of Creation we form by ourselves.

Never reject anything out of hand!
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