you didnt see the review that the designer was involved in.... i cant remember which mag did it (super street or SCC) and nobody was willing to test it on their car so the guy from AEM that designed it put his nsx on a dyno and they made an extension for his intake, submerged it in 18" of water.... you could see in the pics all the water gettin sucked up into the pipe (they used a clear pipe) but nothing ruined the nsx... i was convinced.