Originally Posted by 18secFerio

did I ever say that?

maybe I should reliterate.

when I say "talk about trashing the whole point....."

basiclly, the story of Christ wasn't about his sufferage. I think passion plays are totally pointless. How many religious leaders and zealots died for their cause? Its no different than Jesus.

however, its the resurrection, I feel, that makes jesus different from all those leaders and zealots. frankly, there's hardly a lick of difference between judiasim, islam, and christianity, save that major point. I think thats the biggest reason I still have some faith in chirstianity, which would have otherwise faded in light of recent events....

and applying this resurrection to us is what its ment by Jesus saving us, I feel. Its like the whole fight club concept: "once we lose it all, we're free to do anything"

regardless, the point of Jesus isn't to shock people with uber violence. But again, I haven't seen it.

I just think its ironic, thats all....

and besides, no one KNOWS how it was. Even acient record can be misleading. They spoke alot in metaphor.... I don't take a single religious document verbatum, nor do I think anyone should. Its the idea, not the actual words....