You know, I was trying to help out here and make the point that, while we may be a bit upset, I was at least willing to give it a try. Looking at some of the responses by the Civic folk, I'm beginning to wonder why I bothered. You know what? I love cars. Period. Any of you Civic gang want to get together and talk cars, let me know. I'm game.

18secFerio---- THAT MADE ME LAUGH!!!! Thanks! I'm going to stop looking at this thread. I can feel myself getting stupider....