thanks for you input, i would only like to lower it about 1.5 but i like the fact that i can change it if need it. i wouldnt mind some wheel gap, just nothing that makes me car look really stupid. hopefully i dont have to get a camber kit with my drop, but it would be adjust if its too bad, hopefully not lol. as for the Tokico, i have never been in a car with them on but i would check them out when the spring integra meets are here. so far i got my heart set on koni, but before i make a purchase i would look more into the Tokico. plus they are cheaper then koni ( i think), lol.