oh and Jkan, the accord is rice.. that is my point with the car.. i could care less about how FAST the accord is, i could care less about how NICE my car looks.. its my fu*king joke car, i'm glad you like it as a joke, its an ugly POS, i could care less. ok you can say shit about my cars but i can't say shit about your cars? haha.. and who are you the one to tell someone to stop talking and stop wasting HAN bandwidth. why would i care about respect on a forum? i don't devote my life to HAN forums to get everyone to like my car but not yourself. everyone liked your car.. no one likes YOU. get it yet?