Listen u ****in monkey , the 03 Neon didnt run 13"s it ran 14.1 with a pro driver driving it. 14.6 is what the guy ran who i raced , ive seen guys runs 15.0 in them consistanly which is a horrible time and they shoudlnt have the car to boot. 14.5 is not a bad time , they run what 15.5-15.6 stock, i used to have a vtec lude, they heavy as shit and u basically have to turbo em or give them a shot to hit low 13"s.