You guys say b16"s r weak all u want , i mean everyone has there opinion. I love mine. I mean 12.8 is not bad for a 1.6 Liter. Its actually damn good , and with no Shot i think 14.2 is a great time. Im only 200 bucks away from a turbo setup , then i dont wanna hear b16"s are weak, ill be around 210 hp 150-160 pounds of tq