LOL integrity.. thank you, rofl. Jkan does need to chill out.. thats why i got into like 2 fights with Jkan cuz he's so dam* touchy. and he talks big.. yes you had a nice civic and you probably have a nice SE-R but leave it at that and dont' bring your cars up to back yourself up. end this BS Jkan, you love to start fights we know.. but also Jkan is right.. B16's are weak.. the torque is plain retarded, haha.. i wouldn't spend $1000-1500 or more for a B16 for 160hp and 106tq. put that money into a D-series motor and smoke the shit outta a B16 for the same amount of money. i here by give Jkan the Feb 2004 Noob Association member #0001 what do you guys think???