I wouldnt be ripping it out of the car because I like the D15. But I did get anouther civic strickly for a project I posted a thread about it. That I was considering putting a D16 in. I cant remove the D15 from my other car because I have to much time and money in it. I didnt say it was a monster engine I said it was fast and it is. I mean it is almost the same as a D16 it has a D16 head. And A EX tranny so it might as well be a D16..Am I right?